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  • #61
    And the Patriots decide they need a good WR... so what do they do? They fu cking go trade for one. Why do the Bengals never do shit!?!?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by I_C_DeadPeople View Post
      It is pathetic. Not even the old mantra of 'we sign our own' is holding up. We have lost 3 starting OL in 12 months. The good news is we can already write the season off, no doubt the Browns will pass us in the division. Oh yeah, and a lame duck year for the Clapping Clown..lol
      You are completely insane. '90's Syndrome has robbed you of any logic.
      "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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      • #63
        The Panthers have now signed WR Charles Johnson and Captain Munnerlin. They've signed FIFTEEN players when they have $26.5 million in cap space... the Bengals had like $36 million and signed 4 players, LaFell, Kirkpatrick, Winston, and TJ Johnson... and they say they only have $3 million left in cap space. Tell me how that happens.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Lewdog View Post
          Of course Vigil was on the field more, the team wasn't going to make the playoffs and some of the young guys needed to start getting some real game experience. If Dansby REALLY thought the team was still what he thought it was before he came to Cincy he would have lobbied to stay, even in a back up role at a low contract amount just to win a ring. He didn't, at all... seriously, for someone that posts some of the conspiracy theory type things you do here, to totally blow off what I'm saying is nonsense... tells me you are either in denial, or you don't have a defense for what I'm saying so you just come up with the most lame defense possible, that it's just a conspiracy theory.
          You have said nothing of substance--just what is there to deny? And defend what? All you said was Karlos quietly left town and joined the Cards. Then you interjected suppositions based on complete conjecture. Then you double-down by saying he would have lobbied to stay IF....? Do you know this? Is there a statement somewhere? I googled Karlos Dansby Cardinals Bengals and got...wait for it...nothing. No statements, no anything--just news reports.

          Damn, Lew: you know your stuff for the most part, but enough of the trolling with this bullshit. Let it go.
          "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Le Tigre View Post
            You have said nothing of substance--just what is there to deny? And defend what? All you said was Karlos quietly left town and joined the Cards. Then you interjected suppositions based on complete conjecture. Then you double-down by saying he would have lobbied to stay IF....? Do you know this? Is there a statement somewhere? I googled Karlos Dansby Cardinals Bengals and got...wait for it...nothing. No statements, no anything--just news reports.

            Damn, Lew: you know your stuff for the most part, but enough of the trolling with this bullshit. Let it go.
            ""It's time for me to go get a ring,'' Dansby said. "This is going to get me closer to my destiny and I'm cool with that.''

            Dansby is hoping to sign with a Super Bowl contender such as the Bengals, Cardinals or Packers.

            "Yeah, I think the Bengals are licking their chops right now,'' he said. "I hope they are. We'll see what it is.""

            http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/3/17...r-like-bengals

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Le Tigre View Post
              You are completely insane. '90's Syndrome has robbed you of any logic.
              Not at all. In the 90's we did not even draft well, at least we do that now. We used to be the laughing stock of the league now we are the drafting stock of the league. Draft good players but don't re-sign most so other teams can just pick them up. I will state one more time - Mike Brown does nothing to show he cares about winning. He does everything to show his business needs to turn a consistent profit every year. We do not even spend to the cap OR push contracts forward. That puts us TWO steps behind all other teams. It is a ######## joke at this point. ML spouting off that Mikey wants to win badly is hilarious.
              Marvin Lewis - the Clapping Clown.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by I_C_DeadPeople View Post
                Not at all. In the 90's we did not even draft well, at least we do that now. We used to be the laughing stock of the league now we are the drafting stock of the league. Draft good players but don't re-sign most so other teams can just pick them up. I will state one more time - Mike Brown does nothing to show he cares about winning. He does everything to show his business needs to turn a consistent profit every year. We do not even spend to the cap OR push contracts forward. That puts us TWO steps behind all other teams. It is a ######## joke at this point. ML spouting off that Mikey wants to win badly is hilarious.
                I don't think we've drafted very well in the past 3 yrs yrs. That HAS to change this year. We need a helluva draft this year. We can't afford a weak draft.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Lewdog View Post
                  ""It's time for me to go get a ring,'' Dansby said. "This is going to get me closer to my destiny and I'm cool with that.''

                  Dansby is hoping to sign with a Super Bowl contender such as the Bengals, Cardinals or Packers.

                  "Yeah, I think the Bengals are licking their chops right now,'' he said. "I hope they are. We'll see what it is.""

                  http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/3/17...r-like-bengals
                  Wonderful. There was never a question of what he said coming in...it was your conclusions of what he was stating/inferring heading out, of which there were none. As I said, let's let it go.
                  "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by BengalCP9 View Post
                    Zeitler........wasn't worth the highest contract for a guard. Zeitler is above-average. He's not Hall-of-Fame talent though. Good work ethic, DeCastro in Pittsburgh seems to be better based on my perception. I could be wrong. Good luck playing for sucky Cleveland. I've never seen a team have one guard rally the team to a Super Bowl.

                    The Browns traded for Osweiler. The Texans receive salary cap relief. The Browns get a second-round pick and the opportunity to trade Osweiler to another team at a reduced salary. It's a weird win-win-win situation. The Browns will either trade or cut Osweiler.
                    The Browns also signed Green Bay's starting center and re-signed Joel Bittonio. Along with Joe Thomas, they have just hugely upgraded their line. When I heard the Zeitler signing, I was in a car with hubby dearest driving to Cleveland so I got to hear all the Cleveland sports hype about these signings. All I could think was that it was Eric Steinbach all over again. As for the Osweiler trade, conjecture is that he will be traded or cut. Hubby's thought is to bring him into OTAs and see if he has anything. Before free agency, the Browns had $100 mil in cap space. Basically they bought a 2nd round pick for 2018 for $16 mil.
                    "She's a Browns fan. She doesn't know anything about the playoffs." Chuck Todd referring to Kelly O'Donnell on "Meet the Press"

                    "The Browns are so low in national esteem that they troll the football equivalent of the thermal vents at the bottom of the Marianas Trench in the Pacific. This is the deepest point on the surface of the earth. Strange creatures live there and also in Berea." Bill Livingston-The Plain Dealer

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                    • #70
                      The Browns offensive lines have, in recent years, been fairly solid. That isn't their problem on offense: it is meager RB's, no WR's (even worse now with TP heading off), and (obviously) no one under center. Their defense is also a disaster. So all of this talk of their "trending up" is amusing. ESPN will no doubt crown them the Kings of Free Agency (which they have won before).
                      "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by shebengal View Post
                        The Browns also signed Green Bay's starting center and re-signed Joel Bittonio. Along with Joe Thomas, they have just hugely upgraded their line. When I heard the Zeitler signing, I was in a car with hubby dearest driving to Cleveland so I got to hear all the Cleveland sports hype about these signings. All I could think was that it was Eric Steinbach all over again. As for the Osweiler trade, conjecture is that he will be traded or cut. Hubby's thought is to bring him into OTAs and see if he has anything. Before free agency, the Browns had $100 mil in cap space. Basically they bought a 2nd round pick for 2018 for $16 mil.
                        Sounds like a great deal. I would have loved for Mike Brown to take on $16mill for a 2nd rd pick. It kinda resembles an NBA kinda deal. We don't see much of this in football and baseball.

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                        • #72
                          Newsflash: when you don't have to pay a franchise QB and franchise WR it opens up a lot of avenues for you in FA.

                          of course the downside is, you don't have a franchise QB or WR.
                          Last edited by spicoli; 03-11-2017, 02:01 PM.
                          potential targets for Bengals #1 overall pick in 2018:
                          QB's- Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, Mason Rudolf
                          OT's- Orlando Brown, Connor Williams, Mike McGlinchey

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sea Ray View Post
                            I don't think we've drafted very well in the past 3 yrs yrs. That HAS to change this year. We need a helluva draft this year. We can't afford a weak draft.
                            IF our drafts have been average to poor over the last few years that SHOULD have made it all that more important to sign the free agents we had who have developed well. The Pats have had a lot of strikeout drfats over the past few years but the deal with it by cutting those picks quickly and finding players via free agency or trades. I doubt Belechick would have held onto Margus Hunt for more than 1 year.

                            The drfat is still a crap shoot even for good personnel departments. Our issues are beoyond drafting - it is recognizing poor players, dealing with it and getting onto the market for better ones.
                            Marvin Lewis - the Clapping Clown.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by spicoli View Post
                              Newsflash: when you don't have to pay a franchise QB or franchise WR it opens up a lot of avenues for you in FA.

                              of course the downside is, you don't have a franchise QB or WR.
                              Small details. Because THEY SPENDZ TEH MONEEYZ!1!
                              "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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                              • #75
                                I guess that I am a lifetime member of L.T.'s "90 syndrome brigade", but I have been around Mikey Brown's block oh so many times, that I feel, sense, and foresee exactly what's coming next.

                                You see, Mikey is like a corporate farmer who owns acres upon acres of prime fertile soil, but has found out that he can make almost the same amount of cash by taking government subsidies and not growing anything as he can if he had some pride, worked his land, and grew something that he would be remembered for. Mikey's life is centered around wealth, and nothing but wealth. I truly believe that if by some remote chance, the Bengals went to the S.B. and won it, that it wouldn't swell his pride for one moment. It would mean nothing to him.

                                What I see coming is a year just like the one when Caron Palmer found out exactly what his value was to Mikey. Instead of getting C.P. some help on the O -line, he went out and got T.O. to pair up with his other circus clown, Ocho Cinco just to fill up seats. That was the beginning of the end for a good Q.B. Dalton is going to have the very same experience this year. Mikey has just tied a couple of pounds of raw pork chops around Andy's neck and teams like the Squealers are licking their chops. I know it. I have already heard it.

                                Andy had better, one, go out and buy all the supplemental insurance he can buy, two, learn how to throw lying on his back, because that's where he's going to be all season, and three, talk to C.P. to gain all the insight he can on how to get out of the Nati.

                                As far as the 90's syndrome goes..... alright, let's just take a look at all of the milestones this franchise has accumulated since 1968. We have one, ONE, Hall of Famer in Anthony Munoz. We have two trips to the Bowl, but who was driving the bus in those years? Is there anything else? In almost 40 years, those three things are all we can boast about. Pretty slim pickins, eh?

                                Mikey has taken 25 years to field a team that even sniffed the play-offs, but he can dismantle one in two. He's doing it right now. You know and I know that the only help Andy is going to get is going to be some training camp cut signings. Guys who've been hurt, played their way out of their jobs, or they just plain suck. Here's my prediction, and I'm confident that all these things are going to take place. First, this team will not win more than 4 games this season. Two, Andy won't make it past week #6 before he's on the D.L. Three, we will be the owner of the first pick in the 2018 draft. The death spiral has begun, and another 25 years of futility is not only possible, it's damn probable, unless the "Old Fool" steps down and someone, anyone, in this organization starts to give a damn, have some pride, and make the whole purpose of owning the Bengals be about FOOTBALL, not just making money.

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