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  • Well, it just got easier to slot Ross' contract.
    Christian McCaffrey is officially a Carolina Panther.

    The team announced on Thursday that they have signed the running back to a four-year contract with a fifth-year option. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

    McCaffrey, selected eight overall, is the first pick from the 2017 NFL Draft to sign a contract.
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    • Originally posted by spicoli View Post
      Lol I'm not gonna go that far, but a young fast team coupled with a 7 year veteran starting QB that's very good at reading a defense and getting it to these guys in rhythm has a chance at being a pretty scary offense for quite a few years....I'm talking like 2016 Atlanta Falcons scary.....if the young tackles can develop and Burfict can stay healthy and out of the league office, this team has a chance at being pretty damn good pretty damn quick and with some potential staying power, IMO.
      Atlanta was great because Alex Mack became their Center. No comparisons here.

      Jake Matthews had his first full season at LT, after proving himself at RT. He was very good at LT. Ryan Schrader was excellent on the Right side after being rewarded for his excellent part-time play in 2015. The rest of their O-Line was very good, too. Maybe in four years we can have an Offensive Line that resembles Atlanta's, as that's how you get that kind of a juggernaut Offense, not from the pretty boys with the speed and the names.

      Right now, Atlanta's Offensive Line and Cincinnati's Offensive Line are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

      There's a whole lot of people putting the cart before the horse here. This is a team that only scored 20.3 points per game last year that dumped their only two productive O-Linemen, who were also the best in the league at their position. They have the same O.C., who was clearly in way over his head last season, with the same buffoon of a Head Coach as before who has always proven to be a millstone around the Offense. Rookies and unproven players who have yet to put up a single "below-average" season, but only poor seasons so far are going to miraculously increase the scoring output of the Offense? I've got a bridge to sell someone.

      When we get to Week 10, and the season is half done, let's honestly evaluate whether any improvement has actually taken place with the Offense, if they are averaging more than 20.3 points per game. The Kicker alone should make a difference you would think, but Rookie Kickers struggle, too.

      I would be ecstatic if by Week 10, Dalton has avoided getting a concussion while not missing any time. I would call the Offense's transition from Whitworth/Zeitler to Ogbuehi/Fisher a rousing success to that point.

      But, then real football begins in November and these new starters and rookies only got their first taste of the NFL. They have yet to play with Panicking Marvin in November and December when the intensity level moves up two notches and everyone is expected to play hurt and injured and exhausted. Let's see how the new O-Line holds up under those conditions, or if we'll start finding them with questionable and doubtful tags at this point with repeated missed practices throughout the week.
      Last edited by BlazerBenner; 05-06-2017, 11:12 AM.
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      "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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      • Great post Blazer, my sentiments exactly. I have little faith in Zampese being able to be creative with all the so weapons at his disposal and even far less faith that Marvin would even let him. That clown will still want to grind it out and will continue to handcuff any creativity and risk taking on both sides of the ball. And Marvin has also proven he gets worse as a HC as the games get more intense.
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        • You have no faith in anyone on this team. And if you ever did, it was not apparent from any postings.

          Blazer does make some good points, however laced with the usual doom/gloom because the center position isn't perfect. And, the UO Duck-lover in him has to recall who was protecting the greatest Duckie QB ever during his greatest season? Maybe, just maybe, finally at a fixed position as opposed to being shuffled all over the line, he isn't so bad after all (not that he was anyway)?

          And golly, two of the highest-rated tackles, in one of the most talent-laden tackle drafts--who were going to be drafted very high regardless of who took them--obviously have nothing going for them that time and training can't thresh something good out of? Oh, of course, do cue the PA loathing now.

          Naturally, everyone else anywhere else, is infinitely better than anyone who happens to be here. Of course, the sainted Atlanta Falcons--who for the prior two seasons couldn't get out of their own way on either offense or defense, catch a rocket ride last season, and are now the Gold Standard? But, of course, that can never happen here--because a 35-year old tackle and a guard are no longer on the roster.

          But no, why interfere with the age-old hate fest? Carry on.
          "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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          • he is just bringing up the reality to those only looking at who we drafted and proclaiming we have an super offense now. every year draftees are highly rated (and low rated) and when the real season starts we find they arent what they was supposed to be. just in the Bengals alone you have akili smith and burflict as examples.

            as far as the Oline goes they sucked last year and the 2 that sucked the least are gone and we have 1 center that hasnt performed at a good level for many years, a LG that ended up hurt at the end of the season a LT that failed at RT and hasnt had 1 healthy TC in his 2 years as a bengal a RG that only showed up in shape 1 year outta 6 and a RT that showed some promise but also got hurt at the end of the year. I hope everything works perfect for them all and they are great, but atm the only OL that you can truthfully say is a solid building block to center the OL around is Boiling. and just what is hios highest rating in all the years he has played LG?

            sorry if some us is a little skeptical.

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            • Originally posted by Le Tigre View Post
              You have no faith in anyone on this team. And if you ever did, it was not apparent from any postings.

              Blazer does make some good points, however laced with the usual doom/gloom because the center position isn't perfect. And, the UO Duck-lover in him has to recall who was protecting the greatest Duckie QB ever during his greatest season? Maybe, just maybe, finally at a fixed position as opposed to being shuffled all over the line, he isn't so bad after all (not that he was anyway)?

              And golly, two of the highest-rated tackles, in one of the most talent-laden tackle drafts--who were going to be drafted very high regardless of who took them--obviously have nothing going for them that time and training can't thresh something good out of? Oh, of course, do cue the PA loathing now.

              Naturally, everyone else anywhere else, is infinitely better than anyone who happens to be here. Of course, the sainted Atlanta Falcons--who for the prior two seasons couldn't get out of their own way on either offense or defense, catch a rocket ride last season, and are now the Gold Standard? But, of course, that can never happen here--because a 35-year old tackle and a guard are no longer on the roster.

              But no, why interfere with the age-old hate fest? Carry on.
              It is not really the players I have little faith in as much as the coaches and the coaching philosophy. Zampese is no Hue or Gruden and I am convinced Guenther is handcuffed by ML whereas Zimmer was able to do his own thing. I have little faith in the coaches being able to integrate young players into the lineup, again it is a ML thing. Other teams seem to have little issue doing this.

              I am in fact a realist - this coaching staff and certain key players have shown zero ability to win in imporatnat situations - zero - so you can use your pom-poms all you want , it wont change the facts we have in front of us. For this season to be a playoff season - a LOT of 'IF's" have to come true. The biggest is the OL.
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              • And you know this "handcuffing" how? Of course you know, defensive play calling comes first from the sideline--and just who was doing the play calling for St Michael?

                And Zamp wasn't sitting in a corner doodling all these years--he had direct operational duties under both Jay And Hue.

                Your visceral hatred of ML has closed your mind to anything positive. "Pom Poms" Lol.
                "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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                • I don't remember Gruden being all that great in his first year either....very similar to Zampese in his first year actually.

                  and what did Hue do that was so great except for come up with a bunch of cute formations....seemed pretty much overrated to me.
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                  • and in addition the browns do not yet have a decent QB

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                    • For some reason in Hue's first year, he was able to pound the ball with a tenacious running game. Then somehow the offensive line magically began to miss assignments and Jeremy Hill thought he was Barry Sanders trying to dance, juke, and weave trying to hit a home-run every carry like he has 4.3 take-it-to-the-house speed instead of being the North-South one move-and-go running back that made him a rookie sensation.

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                      • Yeah, Hill's 1,000 yards as a rookie came quietly from mostly breaking through one arm tackles to turn 3.5 yard runs into a 5-6 yard runs. His last two years, he keeps wanting to break the big one and get on the highlight reel. Those 5-6 yard runs just aren't going to do it. He probably thinks that he has scored all of these touchdowns because he's Jeremy Hill. I don't think that he realizes that someone has to carry the ball when you are inside the 3 yard line a lot.

                        Get used to those TDs going to someone else Jeremy. The guy that can break the long run is now on the roster.
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                        • I have faith in Fisher. His issue coming out of college was a lack of strength, especially lower body strength. He was not expected to be able to hopd his ground for a couple of years, yet alone power block the Bengals' way. I've yet to see change their core strength in 3years or less at the pro level. He will do it. They do or they are out of the league. The improvement this yearr should be noticeable. He was moved around in college and excelled everywhere, but he used his speed, size and intelligence to do it. I fullly expect Fisher to be an above average O-Linema, wherever they need him, in 2018.

                          Notice all the Ducks went undrafted? How fast can a program fall? OSU #1 in baseball. Ohio State has one of their 4 losses 34-4. Their best team ever.

                          Ogbuehi has no "natural position". He was not successful at LT in college. He played mostly RT in college. He was drafted because he is a freak of nature and is physically the ideal "Bengal" LT size. He came in raw, not like Hunt, but more raw than Fisher. It's up to Alexander to teach him. Pros don't teach players, but Ogbuehi is the exception. He was a five-year project from the beginning and the results will come during the 2nd contract, affordable as a result. We just have to go through his growing pains and hope he's capable of learning the position. If he can't, Fisher can. We already know Boling can, so if he"s really bad, they can move Boling over.
                          "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                          "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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                          • Originally posted by Pre_hungover View Post
                            Yeah, Hill's 1,000 yards as a rookie came quietly from mostly breaking through one arm tackles to turn 3.5 yard runs into a 5-6 yard runs. His last two years, he keeps wanting to break the big one and get on the highlight reel. Those 5-6 yard runs just aren't going to do it. He probably thinks that he has scored all of these touchdowns because he's Jeremy Hill. I don't think that he realizes that someone has to carry the ball when you are inside the 3 yard line a lot.

                            Get used to those TDs going to someone else Jeremy. The guy that can break the long run is now on the roster.
                            Yep. The Bengals beat it into him that he can't dance. They have moved on. If he reacts the wrong way and gets mad at anyone but himself, he only justifies their moving on. If he finds humility, he can revive his career and the Bengals have his RFA rights, etc.
                            "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                            "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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                            • Originally posted by BlazerBenner View Post
                              Yep. The Bengals beat it into him that he can't dance. They have moved on. If he reacts the wrong way and gets mad at anyone but himself, he only justifies their moving on. If he finds humility, he can revive his career and the Bengals have his RFA rights, etc.
                              Supposedly Hill has worked extremely hard in the offseason which made me questions if we would really take Mixon. It's just that no matter how hard Jeremy trains he will never be the raw talent and speed that Mixon possesses.
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                              • Originally posted by yang View Post
                                Supposedly Hill has worked extremely hard in the offseason which made me questions if we would really take Mixon. It's just that no matter how hard Jeremy trains he will never be the raw talent and speed that Mixon possesses.
                                Working hard has nothing to do with it. Following orders/instructions is his problem, as mentioned by everyone here. The reason he fell to the 2nd Round showed up his 2nd and 3rd seasons. He tried to control his emotions for the first 8 months he was a Bengal, but like most people trying to change their behavoir, it didn't last. Hill is extremely talented, as he proved his Rookie year, but only if he runs North and South. He's worthless otherwise.
                                "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                                "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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