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  • Originally posted by yang View Post
    What's funny is people crying we drafted him because of character that wanted Dalvin Cook who is a flat out thug. By all accounts Mixon is a good kid and leader. The girl forgave him. Our RB coach spent a week with him. We did massive amount of due diligence. Facts do matter. Cook is an idiot.

    And the kid is a stud. He is Bell/Preston type good and with Ross we have the most dynamic, crazy fcpucking good offense in our entire history. I am literally speechless seeing what the Bengals did here. I mean, wow. Insane weapons.
    People wanted Cook on here? I only stated was he better than Mixon. Plus, he was not found guilty of any of those incidents. Two were dropped and he was found not guilty unlike Mixon. Two of those incidents were in high school and dropped. Sounds like wrong person to me. So your point about him being a thug is moot.
    "We started with a very low standard, so we have nowhere to go but up," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. So you set your standards as low? WOW!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

    Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.

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    • Originally posted by spicoli View Post
      holy shit he paid the price already man, let it go.

      not one person has said it was ok what he did, but at what point do people get to move on?

      Your character begins to develop from birth. By the time you are 18, or 19, you have become who you are - value-wise. Busting a woman in the face, breaking multiple bones, doesn't just go away because you want to "put it all behind you".

      PacMan Jones is still spitting in peoples faces, even though Mikey Boy thinks he is a reformed citizen.

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      • Originally posted by LimaBengal View Post
        PacMan Jones is still spitting in peoples faces, even though Mikey Boy thinks he is a reformed citizen.
        yeah none of that means that Mixon can't maintain his shit and become a solid pro however....I personally believe in his contrition and think he'll be just fine here and will likely go on to be a fan favorite.

        I didn't hit a girl but I did some pretty stupid shit when I was 18 years and would hate to think how things could have turned out for me if I wasn't given a couple of different second chances along the way.
        potential targets for Bengals #1 overall pick in 2018:
        QB's- Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, Mason Rudolf
        OT's- Orlando Brown, Connor Williams, Mike McGlinchey

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        • Originally posted by TigerJ@w View Post
          People wanted Cook on here? I only stated was he better than Mixon. Plus, he was not found guilty of any of those incidents. Two were dropped and he was found not guilty unlike Mixon. Two of those incidents were in high school and dropped. Sounds like wrong person to me. So your point about him being a thug is moot.
          Oh, so Florida State suspends their players for full seasons, because criminal charges get dropped? Seems the logical thing to do. And "dropped" charges of torturing puppies and randomly popping of BB pellets in crowded places do not indicate "character developed from birth" (quoting our resident child psychologist above)?

          Yep, as clean as the driven snow I tell ya.

          (Just playing along with the selected piety so many internet experts espouse)
          "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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          • Originally posted by Le Tigre View Post
            Oh, so Florida State suspends their players for full seasons, because criminal charges get dropped? Seems the logical thing to do. And "dropped" charges of torturing puppies and randomly popping of BB pellets in crowded places do not indicate "character developed from birth" (quoting our resident child psychologist above)?

            Yep, as clean as the driven snow I tell ya.

            (Just playing along with the selected piety so many internet experts espouse)

            So shooting a BB gun as a teenager at some property has never been done by anyone in this world? I do not know about the puppy thing, actually he was not suspended a whole season if this is what you are referring too with him. The incident with a woman happened in June 2015 and then a one day trial in Aug 2015 and found not guilty. The school then immediately reinstated him. Seems like the school jumped the gun there because he stated it was not him who hit her at the time of the incident and it was on video. Witnesses proved it was not him. Why the school suspended him is beyond me.

            Now, do not get me wrong, i do not condone anyone hitting a woman, but I believe he deserves a second chance. He did his time with the community and fulfilled his obligations to society. The woman was not all that innocent either since she pushed him and slapped him in the neck first, but if it was me, i would have walked, but that is just me. We do not know what he was thinking at the time or what went on to make him do such a thing, they said there were disparaging words exchanged. Neither guy is a saint that is for sure. Time will only tell if they continue down the criminal path. I believe in second chances, but if you keep going, then you should not be given that anymore. Pacman keeps getting those opportunities and to me he should not so people throughout the US are seeing this team as a Thug team it is all over the internet, social media when we drafted Mixon.
            "We started with a very low standard, so we have nowhere to go but up," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. So you set your standards as low? WOW!

            "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

            Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.

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            • Originally posted by Bengali View Post
              Well I didn't want Lewis either. And the fact there are other examples of this around the NFL is irrelevant. They don't make this any more (or less) right.

              Now that we've drafted him, my issue is more that on this board it appears far more acceptable to be gleeful about how good he'll make us and dismiss anybody who reminds you of any moral quandary, than it is to point out he punched a woman. I'd say the same thing if we'd drafted Dalvin Cook. I understand it's not a perfectly black and white issue (drafting him, that is), but the fact that pointing it out is 'comical righteous indignation' because hey, other teams do it too, while we talk about how many TDs he'll score for us is, um, problematic to say the least. I mean ralph practically said maybe the woman had it coming to her, and that was just fine (yang lit him up but that was about it).

              And those double standards you point out cut both ways. No more calling Roethlisberger Rapistberger.... I mean who are we. You realize that right?

              I think I'm going to go on to the day 3 thread and just let this process for a while. I actually have faith Mixon will turn his life around and be an upstanding member of the community, and when/if he does I'll get over this. But I'd rather this be a space where we can express reservations about woman beaters becoming millionaire athletes - yes, around the NFL, not just the Bengals - than a space where the biggest problem seems to be that our collective parade is being rained upon by some PC do-gooders.
              "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

              "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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