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  • #16
    Originally posted by Lewdog View Post
    Don't forget Shaw was at one point in the season one of the top slot cover guys in the NFL.
    yep, forgot about Shaw
    potential targets for Bengals #1 overall pick in 2018:
    QB's- Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, Mason Rudolf
    OT's- Orlando Brown, Connor Williams, Mike McGlinchey

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    • #17
      So if Minter is an upgrade over Maualuga. Vigil is an upgrade over Dansby and Billings is an upgrade over Peko, Willis/Lawson an upgrade over Johnson, does that make Williams the lone weak spot on D?
      Only users lose drugs

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      • #18
        And even he was coming on the second half of the season.
        "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

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        • #19
          I'll never like Williams. He makes an idiot play whether it is a blown coverage or a stupid penalty every game. He even did it on special teams before he became a starting safety. It is like clockwork, every game.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BlazerBenner View Post
            While Zampese/Lewis were in over their heads last year on Offense, this abrupt change in speed, accountability and willingness to put the draftees out there over established Veterans (I think Ross starts Day 1, even though he'll be a poor blocker as his stretching the field and Giving Dalton multiple opportunities to take deep shots are more important) speaks volumes to an adapting and growing Zampese/Lewis combination. I have to think this way. Either it works and they win 10+ games again and reach the playoffs, or it doesn't and Marvin gets fired. Win-Win. Unless there's a Michael Scott Win-Win-Win.
            Ross doesn't need to block. His job on running plays is to sprint down the field and take two players with him. If the safety starts to play the backfield then you gameplan to burn him on a play action to Ross later on in the game.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pre_hungover View Post
              So if Minter is an upgrade over Maualuga. Vigil is an upgrade over Dansby and Billings is an upgrade over Peko, Willis/Lawson an upgrade over Johnson, does that make Williams the lone weak spot on D?
              The weak spot is ML sticking his conservative thinking into the D when it needs to be aggressive. Zimmer proved you do not need an all pro at every spot but you do need to be aggressive. I fully believe Lewis is handcuffing Guenther.
              Marvin Lewis - the Clapping Clown.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sea Ray View Post
                Ross doesn't need to block. His job on running plays is to sprint down the field and take two players with him. If the safety starts to play the backfield then you gameplan to burn him on a play action to Ross later on in the game.
                That's what I was saying. They can put LaFell in if they need a blocker.
                "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by I_C_DeadPeople View Post
                  The weak spot is ML sticking his conservative thinking into the D when it needs to be aggressive. Zimmer proved you do not need an all pro at every spot but you do need to be aggressive. I fully believe Lewis is handcuffing Guenther.
                  Without a doubt that buffoon is the biggest reason why they only won six games last year.
                  "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                  "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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                  • #24
                    From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

                    Bengals signed West Georgia DE Jason Carr.

                    Carr (6’5/302) originally committed to Tennessee as a four-star recruit, but transferred to community college after the Vols tried to convert him to offensive line. Carr spent his final two seasons at Division-2 West Georgia, managing 11 tackles for loss and four sacks. He ran a 5.56 forty and managed 12 bench-press reps at his Pro Day. While Carr looks like Muhammad Wilkerson with long arms (34 1/8") and a picturesque five-technique frame, Carr was an underachiever throughout college and failed to dominate in the small-school ranks.
                    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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                    • #25
                      For a comprehensive list with some comments on the Bengals' UDFA's...

                      http://www.cincinnati.com/story/spor...ker/101082044/
                      "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                      "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BlazerBenner View Post
                        From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

                        Bengals signed West Georgia DE Jason Carr.

                        Carr (6’5/302) originally committed to Tennessee as a four-star recruit, but transferred to community college after the Vols tried to convert him to offensive line. Carr spent his final two seasons at Division-2 West Georgia, managing 11 tackles for loss and four sacks. He ran a 5.56 forty and managed 12 bench-press reps at his Pro Day. While Carr looks like Muhammad Wilkerson with long arms (34 1/8") and a picturesque five-technique frame, Carr was an underachiever throughout college and failed to dominate in the small-school ranks.
                        A 5.56??? Was he carrying a refrigerator with him?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Lewdog View Post
                          A 5.56??? Was he carrying a refrigerator with him?
                          OK for a Guard.

                          He plays Guard in the NFL or he doesn't play.
                          "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                          "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BlazerBenner View Post
                            OK for a Guard.

                            He plays Guard in the NFL or he doesn't play.
                            Ok, I might accept a 5.56 forty for a 300 pound guy, but 12 reps of 225? He'll get his ass handed to him in the NFL.

                            BTW only three guys at the combine for the offensive line group ran slower than a 5.56. None of the guys benched 12 reps or less. The lowest was 15, and the highest was 35.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Lewdog View Post
                              Ok, I might accept a 5.56 forty for a 300 pound guy, but 12 reps of 225? He'll get his ass handed to him in the NFL.

                              BTW only three guys at the combine for the offensive line group ran slower than a 5.56. None of the guys benched 12 reps or less. The lowest was 15, and the highest was 35.
                              ...practice squads for a couple years while he hits the weight room.
                              "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

                              "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BlazerBenner View Post
                                ...practice squads for a couple years while he hits the weight room.
                                That's not going to matter, he's already set the precedent that he is a lazy bum. He had the opportunity at Tennessee and pissed it away and didn't care enough about being ready for his pro try-out to do better than 12 reps. Hell I'm 5'9" and at one time weighed 235 and could bench 225 ten times. My cousin is 5'7" and weighed about 225 and could bench 225 20 times.

                                He reminds me of another guy a few years back they tried to switch from D-line to O-line... who was also a lazy #### and it didn't work out, Jason Shirley.

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