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  • #16
    I can see Gilberry and Clarke getting cut. It seems like the third round and fourth round pick DEs aren't happy about their spot in the draft and they want the NFL world to know that.

    Still worried about Safety and need another stud LB. Possibly Lawson but he's more or less a DE/Pass rusher. Hopefully Vigil can take hold of the spot and flourish.
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    • #17
      The Good, the Bad and the Ugly:

      Good-- OL played better than expected. They kept Fisher and Ced in the entire first half. Ced started out shaky but played better. Don't know if that was due to playing 2nd stringers later in the half or not. He did whiff on the run block but the pass to Mixon was not a whiff. It looked like it on TV, but Ced did what he was supposed to do. He kept the DL to the outside and forced him to come inside. That allowed McCarron to find Mixon who was helping chip and be the relief valve. Play just looked awkward but was executed as intended. When you never notice the play of a tackle, something good happened, and that was the case with Fisher. No worries at RT for me. RG just got interesting. Trey looked good. Did Andre even play? I don't recall seeing him. I don't have any knocks on Bodine other than one missed block. I never really noticed the play at LG, so it must have been good. I'm a believer in if you don't hear about an OL player, they did their job b/c usually when you hear about on OL player, they either held or gave up a sack. I thought the Bengals OL did well-- especially in the run game.

      More good-- All our RBs ran decisive with speed and power. I don't want to jinx anything or sound bombastic, but I saw a lot of Levon Bell in Mixon last night. He's going to be special. Hill ran well. If we can establish a consistent power run game, our outside weapons are going to have a field day. I thought QB play was outstanding. Driskell played very well. McCarron just became a an even more valuable asset if another team loses their starting QB. Mike can stand pat and demand a 1st round pick for him. Best of all, we came out of the game healthy.

      The Bad-- I wad not impressed at all with the first team defense. They allowed a 90+yard drive right out of the gate. No pass rush or pressure whatsoever on Winston. Secondary did not cover well. I hope I'm wrong, but the way the first unit played is going to leave us very frustrated. They are going to be one of these bend but don't break defenses. They are going to give up a ton of yards but stiffen in the red-zone. The only positive thing I can say is that we have depth. Then again, it is hard to tell back up talent playing against back up talent. One back up that impressed me was Evans.

      The Ugly-- Dalton ruined a stellar first unit drive with a needless pick. Through his first 4 seasons or so, the one thing you could count on with AD was no red-zone turnovers. Since mid 2015, it has become a bit of a problem. Is he taking more risks?

      All in all, a good game. We won. We remained healthy. We did some good things, but there is still a lot of work to do. The biggest thing from me was that the OL did play relatively well. I think we can put the doom and gloom behind us for the time being. I'm more positive about this season after last night than I was before the game. This team is a legit contender.
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      • #18
        Driskel has a nice pass. I say he sticks as a 3rd QB this year. McCarron will be gone next year and Driskel looks to be better than many second string QB's we have had in recent history.
        I won't comment on others until I see more from them. First game out doesn't tell much of anything other than I like the passes of Driskel. His running isn't bad but I really like his passes.

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        • #19
          Having a strong arm is one thing, being able to pass is another. Driskell looked good yesterday. Let's see it again next week.
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          • #20
            It wasn't the strong arm but the way the spiral looked coming out of his hands. Haven't see a throw like that since Kenny. Boomer and Carson had good arms but the ball didn't look the same coming out of their arms. This kid can be coach up with that spiral. Does this mean success? No. But opportunities yes. He may never become a starter somewhere but he will stay in the league.

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            • #21
              At this juncture, what you want to see are people making their assignments...and not suddenly looking around saying "am I supposed to be here?" I saw much more of folks being where they were supposed to be--which is good. Next week will be the next level of the overall playbook implemented, so let's see if they keep up.

              I shy away from "this guy looked good...that guy looked bad" at this stage...as it could change 180 for both players a week from now.
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              • #22
                Driskell looked like a good second string QB. His assignments were simple, but that's what you expect, and simple or not, he didn't make any mistakes. On his runs, I couldn't tell if his "reads" were really reads or predetermined, but his pulls were all correct. On most passing plays you could see him go through two progessions and then tuck. What I liked was that he didn't hurry it or get happy feet. We've been spoiled with McCarron as he's better than a number of starters, but I liked what I saw from Driskell last night. I'm interested to see him with an expanded playbook.

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                • #23
                  I liked the defensive personnel we had in on Tampa's 2nd and Goal during the opening drive. Lawson came inside. That's not an easy group to run on. That being said, I don't really trust any of our DBs in cover 0.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Super Cat View Post
                    It wasn't the strong arm but the way the spiral looked coming out of his hands. Haven't see a throw like that since Kenny. Boomer and Carson had good arms but the ball didn't look the same coming out of their arms. This kid can be coach up with that spiral. Does this mean success? No. But opportunities yes. He may never become a starter somewhere but he will stay in the league.
                    Sorry, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I'm totally on board with you, I just didn't word it properly, ie . . . good weed.
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                    • #25
                      I know one thing....top to bottom, our WR group might be the deepest most talented in the NFL.

                      and wait until Ross gets in there......sky's truly the limit for that unit.
                      potential targets for Bengals #1 overall pick in 2018:
                      QB's- Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, Mason Rudolf
                      OT's- Orlando Brown, Connor Williams, Mike McGlinchey

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by spicoli View Post
                        I know one thing....top to bottom, our WR group might be the deepest most talented in the NFL.

                        and wait until Ross gets in there......sky's truly the limit for that unit.
                        I love this team. I don't remember feeling as good about so many positional groups. What worries me is the offensive line, because if they play like garbage, our skill players are irrelevant. They looked pretty good yesterday. If they look like that all year, then we will be very strong. I wish Tampa had tested them a bit more - we really didn't see anything tricky- but that's preseason football. About the whiff from our LT and Bodine being bullied, I don't think we would have noticed as much if we weren't looking for it. Like Le Tigre said, we still know nothing yet, but that doesn't mean we can't get excited about what we think we might know along the way.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pre_hungover View Post
                          Sorry, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I'm totally on board with you, I just didn't word it properly, ie . . . good weed.
                          I wasn't disagreeing with you either. I just love seeing a tight spiral. A tight spiral means a QB has more control of where the ball is going. It isn't only going to the receiver but to the perfect spot for the catch. It take more than just an arm, it takes the smart and patience also. He was quick to run, but maybe that was his best option. Running to much will ruin a QB. a running QB will lose in the end. Fran Tarkington is the only running QB I liked. He ran because he couldn't find the open man. he didn't run to make him look like a better QB.

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                          • #28
                            Russell Wilson reminds me of Tarkenton when he scrambles for time. Steve Young was the only running QB I've ever liked
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Toronto Bengal View Post
                              ....I don't think we would have noticed as much if we weren't looking for it.
                              and that's pretty much the crux of it right there......I'm sure I could go back and find tape of Whit missing blocks last year as well but since he wasn't always under a constant microscope, it's all good.
                              potential targets for Bengals #1 overall pick in 2018:
                              QB's- Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, Mason Rudolf
                              OT's- Orlando Brown, Connor Williams, Mike McGlinchey

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by spicoli View Post
                                and that's pretty much the crux of it right there......I'm sure I could go back and find tape of Whit missing blocks last year as well but since he wasn't always under a constant microscope, it's all good.
                                Are you just talking preseason? Because Whit generally doesn't give up sacks or screws up period. Thus why he is making the big bucks.

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