The Beanie Wells thread.... (also "do not draft an OSU player thread")

[tibor75]

Because they won't live up to the hype that eminates from Columbus

Chris Gamble
Ted Ginn
Will Smith
AJ Hawk
Bobby "Bust" Carpenter
Donte Whitner
Anthony Gonzalez
Santonio Holmes
Mike Doss (ha ha ha ha)
Mike Nugent
Troy Smith
Matt Wilhelm
Darrion "Wife Beater" Scott

Any of these guys live up to billing. Sure Gonzo and Holmes have had solid careers so far, but they are both a member of model franchises and in the perfect situation. Think Gonzo would be anything without Manning? Think Dead Beat Dad Holmes would be anything without Ward on teh other side?

Is AJ Hawk even close to approaching Urlacher? Troy Smith spends his days holding Flacco's jock.

Stay away from Jenkins and Bust Animal.

[ralphmtsu]

Donte Whitner-- Pro-Bowler
Ted Ginn-- threat every time he touches the ball
A.J. Hawk-- yes, he's approaching if not surpassed Urlacher

BTW, all of these kids are quality players. It takes more, though, than skill or ability to make it in the NFL. It also requires a little luck and fitting into the right situation. Here are some other Buckeyes with impressive resumes that many people tend to forget:

Chris Carter-- other than a guy named Rice, just the best WR of his era.
Joey Galloway-- Another solid; contributing player.
Shawn Springs-- at one point, the heir apparent to Deion Sanders at CB
Mike Vrable-- does everthing asked of him by the Pats
Eddie George-- Heisman winner and perenial All-Pro caliber RB

Personally, I don't care if the Bengals do or do not take Buckeye players. With that, if they feel Lauranitis or Jenkins is the best player for this team when they draft, more power to them. I doubt either one is in the top 6 and we need help at OL, so I don't think either one will be there when we pick in round #2. However, if Lauranitis is there (and he could be) in the 2nd, I have no qualms with us taking him. Some of the stuff he does can't be coached.

[spicoli]

Little Animal might be a little overrated but will probably end up being a solid 7-8 year starter for somebody. I sure wouldn't take him with the 6th pick but I'd jump on him with the 6th pick of the second round that's for sure. Jenkins on the other hand will be one of the highest rated defensive players available and more than likely a sure-fire top 10 pick. I have no doubt he'll be one of the best DB's in the league for the next 7-8 years regardless of whether he ends up at S or CB.

[LimaBengal]

Donte Whitner-- Pro-Bowler
Ted Ginn-- threat every time he touches the ball
A.J. Hawk-- yes, he's approaching if not surpassed Urlacher

BTW, all of these kids are quality players. It takes more, though, than skill or ability to make it in the NFL. It also requires a little luck and fitting into the right situation. Here are some other Buckeyes with impressive resumes that many people tend to forget:

Chris Carter-- other than a guy named Rice, just the best WR of his era.
Joey Galloway-- Another solid; contributing player.
Shawn Springs-- at one point, the heir apparent to Deion Sanders at CB
Mike Vrable-- does everthing asked of him by the Pats
Eddie George-- Heisman winner and perenial All-Pro caliber RB

Personally, I don't care if the Bengals do or do not take Buckeye players. With that, if they feel Lauranitis or Jenkins is the best player for this team when they draft, more power to them. I doubt either one is in the top 6 and we need help at OL, so I don't think either one will be there when we pick in round #2. However, if Lauranitis is there (and he could be) in the 2nd, I have no qualms with us taking him. Some of the stuff he does can't be coached.

Excellent observation , and from a guy that is not a Buckeye Homer like myself.

Thoughtful thread by Tibor, who's only desire is to agitatate. I bet Tibor visits daycare centers at nap time, just so he can wake all the little babies up and get them crying.

[USNBENGAL]

Excellent observation , and from a guy that is not a Buckeye Homer like myself.

Thoughtful thread by Tibor, who's only desire is to agitatate. I bet Tibor visits daycare centers at nap time, just so he can wake all the little babies up and get them crying.

Now that's funny Lima...

[#1 italian fan]

just to make a little of brain training (for myself):
Chris Spielman, LeCharles Bentley, Orlando Pace

[#1 italian fan]

for others:

http://www.osula.org/html/osu_in_nfl.html

[tibor75]

Donte Whitner-- Pro-Bowler
Ted Ginn-- threat every time he touches the ball
A.J. Hawk-- yes, he's approaching if not surpassed Urlacher

BTW, all of these kids are quality players. It takes more, though, than skill or ability to make it in the NFL. It also requires a little luck and fitting into the right situation. Here are some other Buckeyes with impressive resumes that many people tend to forget:

Chris Carter-- other than a guy named Rice, just the best WR of his era.
Joey Galloway-- Another solid; contributing player.
Shawn Springs-- at one point, the heir apparent to Deion Sanders at CB
Mike Vrable-- does everthing asked of him by the Pats
Eddie George-- Heisman winner and perenial All-Pro caliber RB

Personally, I don't care if the Bengals do or do not take Buckeye players. With that, if they feel Lauranitis or Jenkins is the best player for this team when they draft, more power to them. I doubt either one is in the top 6 and we need help at OL, so I don't think either one will be there when we pick in round #2. However, if Lauranitis is there (and he could be) in the 2nd, I have no qualms with us taking him. Some of the stuff he does can't be coached.

First of all, I didn't forget about the older players. In fact, that is my point. Antoine Winfield is the best BUckeye in the NFL right now. And it's not even close. Galloway and Glenn were great the last few years. I'm talking about RECENT Buckeye grads.

Whitner? ZERO pro bowls. I guess in your own mind he's a pro bowler. Then again, in your mind, Wasteverharn probably was to. Typical Bengal fan - seeing greatness where there is none.

Hawk? Ha ha haa. ZERO pro bowls. When you are MLB for a defense as horrible as Green Bay, you can't be that great.

Ginn? A threat everytime? yeah, I guess he's a threat, much like CHris Henry is a threat. He scored 2 touchdowns this year. About as many rushing TD as Ryan Fitzpatrick. Comical. And who can forget his bonehead fumble against Baltimore costing them 10 yards?

OSU homers...always good for a laugh

[tibor75]

just to make a little of brain training (for myself):
Chris Spielman, LeCharles Bentley, Orlando Pace

really reaching now. Why don't you mention Jack Tatum?

Bentley had a great pro career, didn't he?

[#1 italian fan]

really reaching now. Why don't you mention Jack Tatum?

Bentley had a great pro career, didn't he?

OK, i don't want make any point man but i remember a great career in N.O. and a devasting injurie in cleveland...

it's always better than perry in cincy don't you agree with me?

[tibor75]

OK, i don't want make any point man but i remember a great career in N.O. and a devasting injurie in cleveland...

it's always better than perry in cincy don't you agree with me?

No argument there. We could have taken the average Chris Gamblor a few years ago...instead took Chris Sherry. When Tags said "Chris...." I was sure it was going to be Gamblor, but Marvin was too smart (ha ha ha) for his own good.

[CinciFan]

Stupid thread. Stupid thread subject.

[Blitz Dorsey]

The dumbass that started this thread needs to watch more games. Tons of OSU players are drafted, so there are going to be busts like Bobby Carpenter (agree on that one). But to call players like Will Smith, Chris Gamble and Ted Ginn a bust, that is just ****ing hilarious. You must not watch much football young lady. Those guys are studs. Well, Ginn is not yet, but Smith and Gamble are proven NFL studs.

[tibor75]

The dumbass that started this thread needs to watch more games. Tons of OSU players are drafted, so there are going to be busts like Bobby Carpenter (agree on that one). But to call players like Will Smith, Chris Gamble and Ted Ginn a bust, that is just ****ing hilarious. You must not watch much football young lady. Those guys are studs. Well, Ginn is not yet, but Smith and Gamble are proven NFL studs.

Will Smith? NFL stud?

Ha haa ha ha ha. Yeah, he's a star.

God I love stupid Bengal fans. Almost as funny as the clueless Buckeye fans who think Troy Smith will be a star one day.

[spicoli]

Will Smith? NFL stud?

God I love stupid Bengal fans.

He's been to a pro-bowl. He's had double digit sacks in a season. 37 sacks in 5 years. I don't know what else you want from the guy. N.O. isn't exactly known for their defensive prowess so it's not like he surrounded by the greatest of talent. What? Because he hasn't carried the Saints to a Super Bowl on his back all by himself he isn't a good player? Is that your criteria? Honestly, I don't think you have a f'ing clue.

[Pre_hungover]

Tibor, Which school should the Bengals concentrate on? Since your expert analysis has omitted Ohio State from consideration, which school has the sure fire, can't miss football players?

Your move, kid.

[furnbuff]

Let me guess, the Barnum & Bailey School for Clowns. Comical, eh, Ti-bore.

[CrazyCat]

Just posting for conversation

Bengals to consider Beanie Wells with No. 6 pick
By Carlos "Big C" Holmes

Staff Writer

Tuesday, March 17, 2009

The Cincinnati Bengals have the sixth overall selection in this year's NFL draft and will be in search of an impact player on either offense or defense. The prospect evaluation process has long begun and the franchise is beginning to narrow down its choices.

One impact player ranked high on the team's list is Ohio State running back Chris "Beanie" Wells. The Bengals have a need for a playmaker at the running back position behind starter Cedric Benson and Wells is scheduled to visit the organization in Cincinnati the first week of April.

Wells may have put himself back in the running as a potential Top 5 pick after an explosive performance at the school's pro day on March 13, rebounding from a so-so showing at the Scouting Combine last month.

"It was big for me to perform well at the pro day," Wells said in a recent phone interview. "I knew deep down that I could do better in my 40-time than I did at the combine. It was more of a personal thing for me. It felt great when I crossed that finish line and heard my times."

The 6-foot-1, 235-pound Wells was clocked as low as 4.34 and as high as 4.42 in the 40-yard dash. I'm told that he also fared well during position drills, grabbing the attention of all 32 team representatives in attendance.

The Seattle Seahawks with the No. 3 pick and Cleveland Browns at No. 5 have expressed interest in the running back. Other teams at top of the draft board expressing interest include Green Bay, Jacksonville, Denver and Cincinnati of course.

Wells worked out privately for the Broncos on Tuesday, March 17. According to a source with knowledge of the situation, the workout went extremely well.

Despite being slowed by a foot injury in 2008, Wells believes that he's the top running back prospect entering the draft based on his production in college.

"I've been injured, but those things happen when you're playing football," he said. "If you look at the film and what I was able to accomplish when healthy, you could immediately tell that I would have had a heck of a year if not for the injury. However, I was still able to perform as one of the top running backs in the country."

The junior running back rushed for 1,197 yards and 8 touchdowns in 10 appearances during an injury-plagued season. Wells earned second team all-Big Ten despite missing three games. He was voted team Most Valuable Player and first team all-Big Ten after rushing for 1,609 yards and 15 touchdowns his sophomore year.

When it comes to drafting running backs there are many who believe that they come a dime a dozen, but not when they're special.

Wells is a complete back with a rare combination of size, speed and quickness. Not to mention a home run hitter. He's a powerful inside runner with the ability to bounce the ball outside and take it the distance. He shows good lateral quickness, acceleration and initial burst through the hole. Wells is a patient runner with good vision and can anticipate cutback lanes as they develop. He has the ability to make defenders miss in the open field; blocks well and is a reliable outlet receiver. The only concern with the runner is durability. However, when healthy not many are better.

Should the Bengals decide to use their first round pick on Wells, this could make for a nice one-two punch with him sharing the load with Benson in the backfield.

The Akron native said that he would love to play for Cleveland or Cincinnati. Now it's just a matter of who will pull the trigger on draft day.

[TigerJ@w]

This would not surprise me. It is the Mike F. Brown way! We just paid Benson big time money and then we would pay Beanie big time money for the both of them to play part time? Plus, a RB who has never played a down in the NFL. Brilliant. I wonder how our OL is going to block?

Get a RB in the 3rd or 4th to complement Benson. Not only this, but does this send a sign to Perry that he is done?

[Sweenco]

This would not surprise me. It is the Mike F. Brown way! We just paid Benson big time money and then we would pay Beanie big time money for the both of them to play part time? Plus, a RB who has never played a down in the NFL. Brilliant. I wonder how our OL is going to block?

Get a RB in the 3rd or 4th to complement Benson. Not only this, but does this send a sign to Perry that he is done?

I agree 100%. That would rank up there with one of their typical moronic draft picks considering all the needs they have on both O and D lines. Fix the O and D line with the first days picks, then think about a running back. Adrian Peterson would have average stats behind our current O line.

[sandwedge]

I think it's all a smoke and mirror show guys... Of course we are going to bring players in and work them out doesn't mean we are going to draft everyone of them... Where does Carlos get his inside info from anyways?? Nobody likes Beanie more than me, but I just don't see us taking him at #6..

[Sox]

Maybe we should start the topic,"Which Pick in the Draft will be the first one to cause Bengals fans to yell WTF!!!"

Last year Coastal Carolina in the second was the winner.

[I_C_DeadPeople]

The description of Wells sounds a lot like Benson....

[Le Tigre]

Maybe we should start the topic,"Which Pick in the Draft will be the first one to cause Bengals fans to yell WTF!!!"

Last year Coastal Carolina in the second was the winner.

I still haven't stopped saying it. The gift that keeps on giving!

Chris Wells (I refuse to call a grown man "Beanie") and his visit are simply pomp/circumstance/smoke/mirrors. Have a nice visit, Chris.

[I_C_DeadPeople]

Mikey and Marvin are not smart enough to throw smokescreens.

[Joe Pong]

This would not surprise me. It is the Mike F. Brown way! We just paid Benson big time money and then we would pay Beanie big time money for the both of them to play part time? Plus, a RB who has never played a down in the NFL. Brilliant. I wonder how our OL is going to block?

Get a RB in the 3rd or 4th to complement Benson. Not only this, but does this send a sign to Perry that he is done?

First of all, we did not pay Benson big time money. Second, he's only signed for two years.

But third, this Carlos guy never knows what the hell he is talking about. His writing is always so amateurish, and he exaggerates everything he writes. The bengals merely talk to a guy at the combine and he writes about how much the bengals want him.

[LimaBengal]

As you all know, I was only half kidding last month when I said that Brown would select Beanie Wells. This is the kind of stuff that he does, folks.

The Marvin hysteria is over. There has been enough of the "same ole, same ole", again, for P.T. Brown to need to rally, again, the season ticket holders.

I often allude that he will pick a sexy offensive skill guy, this year, to seduce the uninformed fan's interest.

And to tell the truth, I wouldn't mind the pick.

Why?

Because they are never going to win anyway, so, I might as well have a favorite player to root for.

As a Bengal fan, you need individual players to root for. For me, it use to be Dillon then T.J.

(For Joe Pong it is Mike Brown) lol

[Stryker57]

the sad part is if they draft this Rb ( and nothing against him) they could have taken that money he will get paid and secured a strong enough OL that any average RB could suceed in. doesnt the lessons of Barry sanders mean anything to soP? you can have a great RB but if the line sucks you will lose games. look at the steelers they always have a solid OL and year after year they win and have a decent running game with RBs they sign as college FAs, and lower draft picks.

[TigerJ@w]

First of all, we did not pay Benson big time money. Second, he's only signed for two years.

But third, this Carlos guy never knows what the hell he is talking about. His writing is always so amateurish, and he exaggerates everything he writes. The bengals merely talk to a guy at the combine and he writes about how much the bengals want him.

OK, in your terms $3.5M is chump change when the Average Top 5 salaries for RBs in the NFL is $6.6M. He is an unproven RB and is making 3 times the average RB makes, but go ahead and believe what you want to believe. How much do you think we would pay Beanie Wells? Now, add those 2 together and tell me if it was worth it.

[TigerJ@w]

the sad part is if they draft this Rb ( and nothing against him) they could have taken that money he will get paid and secured a strong enough OL that any average RB could suceed in. doesnt the lessons of Barry sanders mean anything to soP? you can have a great RB but if the line sucks you will lose games. look at the steelers they always have a solid OL and year after year they win and have a decent running game with RBs they sign as college FAs, and lower draft picks.

Hello, Mr. Common Sense! Welcome to the real world of the NFL!. TY!

[BlazerBenner]

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(I went back to the beginning of January to find a thread title about either taking a RB with the #6 pick or a thread about Wells. This is the closest I could find. I also couldn't tell by the title that the thread started 7 hours ago was about a RB, Wells, or the draft.)

[BlazerBenner]

From Rotoworld via Dayton Daily w/ Rotoworld Comments:
Mar. 18 - 9:54 am et

Ohio State RB Beanie Wells is reportedly "high on the Bengals'" list and will be a consideration with the No. 6 overall pick.

Wells isn't expected to go before the mid-first round, but the Bengals are always a wild card. It's also worth noting owner Mike Brown's infatuation with Big Ten players, one of the reasons the team ended up with Chris Perry back in 2004.

[BlazerBenner]

So, who is this Carlos "Big C" Holmes? What do you think of him? Is he going to be the permanent Dayton Daily News correspondent covering the Bengals now? Has Chick Ludwig had enough of the jokes with the Bengals? Did his beravement of them finally lead Mike Brown to remove his access to the team?

Based on the title of the thread I couldn't tell that it was about Wells....sorry.

[tibor75]

Very few college RBs warrant a #6 pick...and Beanie isn't one of them. Trade down and get him in the teens.

[BlazerBenner]

Very few college RBs warrant a #6 pick...and Beanie isn't one of them. Trade down and get him in the teens.

I agree. Unless he's another LT, no back is worthy of the #6 pick. That pick (especially at the price) has got to get you 10 years of above average service mixed in with 3-4 years of outstanding service.

If the Bengals are smart enough to move down in the draft, then they need to move down far enough mid-20's to acquire either the #1 or #2 Center in the draft. Moving down that far would bring a couple of 2nd Round picks (2009/2010) and the 1st Round pick. We have way too many holes to fill to waste it on a #6 pick anyway.

[BlazerBenner]

Anyone think that Wells is worthy of the #6 pick, a player capable of LT's numbers (or close to it) over several seasons? Don't forget that LT also had several Pro-Bowl Linemen and a Pro-Bowl Fullback in order to accomplish what he did.

[I_C_DeadPeople]

I am personally against any RB in the top half of the first round - short careers and the position has become less of a 'one blue chip' back scenario. Build the lines with the top picks - essentially the opposite of what we have done. 2 of our 3 best first round picks over the last 15 years - Willie and Levi.

[Le Tigre]

And you don't call a grown man Beanie.

[spicoli]

For cripes sake people, can we at least see how it all play out before going off the deep end? Seriously...

[BlazerBenner]

For cripes sake people, can we at least see how it all play out before going off the deep end? Seriously...

It's the only thing we've had to look forward to each year for 19 years. One time though, we were so abysmal that we knew who was to be picked months ahead of time....and Carson Palmer has helped us win one division.

The positive thing about all of this is we have the #6 pick in the 1st and 2nd Rounds, and that gives us a great chance to get better.