+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Owens to play strictly Wide w/ Bryant going into the slot....

  1. #1
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934

    Owens to play strictly Wide w/ Bryant going into the slot....

    From Rotoworld via Yahoo Sports w/ Rotoworld comments:

    A member of the Bengals' staff detailed to Yahoo's Jason Cole the team's plans for Terrell Owens in Cincinnati.

    Owens will play strictly out wide, with Antonio Bryant entering in the slot for three-wideout formations. "He doesn’t get away from bump coverage very well and he doesn’t run the middle anymore, but you can see that he can still get vertical," said the coach of Owens. "Last year, whenever teams doubled Chad (Ochocinco) or rolled the safety his way, we couldn’t beat the man coverage on the other side. T.O. can do that." The Football Scientist K.C. Joyner will love this signing. Unlike Laveranues Coles, Owens can still consistently beat single teams when the corner isn't Darrelle Revis.


    Thought this deserved it's own thread as it's a completely different discussion.
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  2. #2
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934
    I like it for a couple of reasons and dislike it for one reason.

    I dislike it because it takes away T.O.'s physical advantage he has over Linebackers.

    I love it because it removes him from most 3rd-down considerations, where his lack of focus and worst-in-the-NFL drop percentages on catchable passes prevents him from killing Offensive Drives down the field.

    I also love it because of the three, Owens, Chad, and Bryant, Bryant has the most reliable hands, and is the best at catching passes thrown to him right now in these three players' careers.

    This will put the player Palmer needs the most on 3rd Downs closest to him with more routes available that can complete 3rd Down passes.
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  3. #3
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934
    If we aren't in a 3-Wide Receiver set on 3rd down and there's 3-1/2 yards or more, I don't like our chances, though. Both Chad and Owens drop too many....that's a lot of rushing yards to get by Benson on 3rd Down, and it will take a while for Palmer to find a Tight End that he can work with comfortably on this type of completion.

    Hopefully, T.O. and Chad turn 1st and 2nd Down passes into huge gains, and we avoid this scenario.

    Maybe Carson can scramble?
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  4. #4
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934
    From Rotoworld via bengals.com w/ Rotoworld comments:

    Chad Ochocinco said Wednesday that he is willing to defer the Bengals' "No. 1 receiver" designation to new teammate Terrell Owens.

    Ocho remains the better bet for catches and yards, but unlike last year with Laveranues Coles opposite him, No. 85 probably won't be Carson Palmer's first read on the overwhelming majority of passing plays. For what it's worth, Bodog.com has set T.O.'s statistical over-under at 65.5 catches for 900 yards and seven touchdowns. Ochocinco's numbers will likely take a hit.
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  5. #5
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934
    Another really cool scenario, is that if Bryant's knee is healthy, as Marvin Lewis stated today that it is, then Bryant could run a deep route up the middle leaving one-on-one coverage for both Owens and Chad on the same play, while allowing just 6 in the box on whoever is at tailback.
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazerBenner View Post
    If we aren't in a 3-Wide Receiver set on 3rd down and there's 3-1/2 yards or more, I don't like our chances, though. Both Chad and Owens drop too many....that's a lot of rushing yards to get by Benson on 3rd Down, and it will take a while for Palmer to find a Tight End that he can work with comfortably on this type of completion.
    So put in Chad, Bryant, Shipley, and Gresham, and Leonard at FB. I like our odds in that scenario. Granted, Gresham and Shipley haven't even put on the pads yet.

    Maybe Carson can scramble?
    I'd prefer he didn't unless there is enough room to drive a truck through.

  7. #7
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934
    From Rotoworld w/ Rotoworld comments:

    Bengals offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski singled out Jordan Shipley as someone he's been pleased with.

    Shipley got a little punch in the stomach when Terrell Owens signed yesterday, but exact roles remain unclear. It's possible that Owens will start out wide, leaving Antonio Bryant as a situational deep threat. That would allow Shipley and Andre Caldwell to continue their battle for the slot job.
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  8. #8
    Sith Lord ralphmtsu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Florida-- but pining for a real winter {Who Dey Keepers Champion and Survivor Champ}
    Posts
    1,709
    T.O. can't go over the middle any more? B.S.! While T.O. may not play slot (never even considered the notion), He can still run slants and other "in the middle" type routes from the outside. Personally, I considered Chad and T.O. as the outside guys. Bryant would be the back up to both. I felt and still do that Shipley and Caldwell will be our slot guys. As for the future, Caldwell is going to have to be an outide guy at some point. I just don't see Shipley ever being a pure outside guy.
    Don't underestimate the power of the Dark Side!

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazerBenner View Post
    Another really cool scenario, is that if Bryant's knee is healthy, as Marvin Lewis stated today that it is, then Bryant could run a deep route up the middle leaving one-on-one coverage for both Owens and Chad on the same play, while allowing just 6 in the box on whoever is at tailback.
    Well done Sir...

  10. #10
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934
    Marshall Faulk's take on who plays where....

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-traini...odule=HP_video
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  11. #11
    This year we will can find out really how good (or bad) is brat calling plays...

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazerBenner View Post
    Marshall Faulk's take on who plays where....

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-traini...odule=HP_video
    dang, never seen Marshal this excited about the Bengals, he's one the worst Bengal haters out there

  13. #13
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934
    Chad and Carson pumping up the fans (with Michael Irvin analysis):

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-traini...als-contenders
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  14. #14
    As a Bengal fan, you have to love the possibilities. Throw in Gresham or swing Bernard Scott out of the backfield and it's weapons galore. Benson has to love this.

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazerBenner View Post
    From Rotoworld via Yahoo Sports w/ Rotoworld comments:

    A member of the Bengals' staff detailed to Yahoo's Jason Cole the team's plans for Terrell Owens in Cincinnati.

    Owens will play strictly out wide, with Antonio Bryant entering in the slot for three-wideout formations. "He doesn’t get away from bump coverage very well and he doesn’t run the middle anymore, but you can see that he can still get vertical," said the coach of Owens. "Last year, whenever teams doubled Chad (Ochocinco) or rolled the safety his way, we couldn’t beat the man coverage on the other side. T.O. can do that." The Football Scientist K.C. Joyner will love this signing. Unlike Laveranues Coles, Owens can still consistently beat single teams when the corner isn't Darrelle Revis.


    Thought this deserved it's own thread as it's a completely different discussion.


    I would think that the guy getting paid $28 million dollars and is still is in his 20's would get most of the playing time.

    I would like to see the 36 year old Owens become the Bengals Red Zone specialist. That is where thet have been the weakest.

    If grandpa Owens could get 40 balls for 10 TDs, I'd be thrilled.

    Bryant has to be able to get 70 balls, or we're in trouble once again.

  16. #16
    "ZIM"--Thank you, God. BlazerBenner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    All Over
    Posts
    4,934
    Posted: July 28th, 2010 | Brian Baldinger |

    If history is any indication, Terrell Owens in the Bengals offense makes a lot of sense.

    As recently as the 2007 season, the Bengals had their most success under offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski using a three-receiver attack. The trio of Chad Ochocinco, T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chris Henry were nearly impossible to defend. Watching the tape, Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau was completely flummoxed on some Sundays on how to defend them. Teams simply couldn’t double-team everyone, and the ball usually went to the receiver who faced single coverage.

    The Bengals haven’t had that luxury the last two seasons, but they will with Owens. Cedric Benson has the ability to pound the ball into the belly of defenses behind what I believe is an improved offensive line. It’s the offensive line, which is much better now than in 2007, that could make the spread even more affective.

    I believe Ochocinco and Owens will operate mainly on the outside, with Antonio Bryant in the slot. The Bengals are now one of the few teams in the league that can go into a spread formation and present a formidable trio of receivers that will pose problems for defenses.

    This can work, and work well.

    Are there enough footballs to go around? That’s my biggest question.

    Divas don’t win championships, teams do. If the Bengals think team-first, they can go far. T.O. should be smiling, and Bengals fans will learn to love him. Forget the popcorn. It’s time to forget about selfishness and think about rings. It’s the one thing missing from their resumes.

    – Brian Baldinger
    "The History of the National Football League proves that most games are won in the last two minutes of the first half or the second half." -- Vince Lombardi.

    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

  17. #17
    Looks as though Bryant won't be playing anywhere...missed his 4th straight practice, going on 5th. Knee isn't holding up. Bone-on-bone. Have heard the phrase "injury settlement" come into play. IR a possibility if not. PUP at the minimum.

    Already being called the worst FA signing of 2010.
    "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Tigre View Post
    Looks as though Bryant won't be playing anywhere...missed his 4th straight practice, going on 5th. Knee isn't holding up. Bone-on-bone. Have heard the phrase "injury settlement" come into play. IR a possibility if not. PUP at the minimum.

    Already being called the worst FA signing of 2010.
    You don't know what you're talking about. PUP is not a possibility because he's already practiced. Once a guy practiced for one session he's no longer eligible for PUP. I don't like this whole knee scenario either but I don't know where you're getting your information. Your PUP comment makers the rest of your report "suspect".

  19. #19
    Here's a few, since you asked:

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/arti...#ixzz0vB5FHNCq

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...amp/?related=1

    And yeah...you are right: soP didn't put him on active PUP like he did Andre. So yes he can't put him on inactive PUP now. Congratulations. Take a bow.

    So do you want to take the issue on now with a scalpel instead of an axe? What's the bottom line here: did I call this guy an expensive injured bum in the very beginning (like March)...or is now everything "suspect" due to a misread on PUP (and a 4th string comment at that)?

    Let's hear it.
    Last edited by Le Tigre; 08-01-2010 at 03:18 PM.
    "This game isn't worth it. The National Football League isn't worth it. There's golf to be played and tennis to be served up and other things to be done out there besides worryin' about a friggin' football game."----The prophet Sam Wyche

  20. #20
    From Bengals.com today:

    Wide receiver Antonio Bryant (knee) missed his fifth straight practice, but did surface wearing No. 19. There was some hope he could return next week.
    Emphasis added by me.

    OUCH.
    The road that is built in hope is more pleasant to the traveler than the road built in despair, even though they both lead to the same destination. - Marian Zimmer Bradley

    http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/ima.../oilTicker.swf

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts