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    Bengals locked into 7th through 11th choice in the first round

    1-14 Cle
    2-13 SF
    3-12 Jax
    3-12 Chi
    4-11 LA
    4-11 NYJ
    5-10 SD - KC @ SD
    5-9-1 Cin - Bal @ Cin
    6-9 Car - Car @ TB
    6-9 Phi - Dal @ Phi
    6-8-1 Ari Ari @ LA

    7-8 Buf, NO, Ind, Min

    Cardinals have a weaker strength of schedule, 46%, to the Bengals 52% so they would get the higher slot if tied with Cincinnati, but Arizona is the only team in the #7-#11 range that I expect to win on Sunday.

    If they lose against Baltimore on Sunday, the latest they'll pick is 8th.

    I'd like for them to draft a stud safety, or LB. If neither is there, draft DL or trade down.

    I don't want to see TE, CB, RB, QB, WR or C drafted that high. I wouldn't look for a feature RB until the o-line is straightened out.

    I half-expect to see McCarron traded(2nd, 3rd round pick?) and Cincy using a 4th or 5th on a QB to groom.

    Thoughts or opinions?
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    We don't draft exclusively for need. But if we are picking top 10 we should get an instant productive starter. Unless ML is still here of course.
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    We need to draft an impact day-one starter....we haven't seen that since Zeitler? He wasn't that big of an impact either. And we need to stop being cute and sit 1st Rndrs. 1st round picks need to play from day-one. You only get them for four-five years.

    I'd say trade Eifert for a 3rd and a 5th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BengalCP9 View Post
    We need to draft an impact day-one starter....we haven't seen that since Zeitler? He wasn't that big of an impact either. And we need to stop being cute and sit 1st Rndrs. 1st round picks need to play from day-one. You only get them for four-five years.

    I'd say trade Eifert for a 3rd and a 5th.
    You don't trade a game changing TE... those are hard to find.

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    Lol, you do when they are on the sideline or at home more-so than on the field.

    I think Tyler Eifert made a cameo in one of the all-time greatest video games ever.....

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    Lol! Best early-days video game EVER! "Body blow...body blow...body blow...jab..jab.."

    Always had troubles with Piston Hurricane, but usually did OK with Kid Quick.
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    Bengals are either 9th or 10th pick, Philly's win puts them past the Bengals at either 10th or 11th. It all comes down to the Arizona game.
    If the Cards win, they're the 11th pick, Philly 10th, Bengals 9th.
    If the Cards lose, they're 9th, Cincy 10th, Philly 11th.
    San Diego or Carolina will be 7th or 8th
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pre_hungover View Post
    Bengals are either 9th or 10th pick, Philly's win puts them past the Bengals at either 10th or 11th. It all comes down to the Arizona game.
    If the Cards win, they're the 11th pick, Philly 10th, Bengals 9th.
    If the Cards lose, they're 9th, Cincy 10th, Philly 11th.
    San Diego or Carolina will be 7th or 8th
    Too bad the Bengals aren't high enough to get that defensive lineman kid from Texas A&M, Myles Garrett. They have get to get another pass rushing DE, and hope Billings comes back strong and healthy next year. The kid from Tennessee wouldn't be a bad backup plan, Barnett. There really isn't a LBer out there I'm in love with... could the Bengals throw everyone off and go after Peppers from Michigan???

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    I cannot wait for that first pick that does not play. Is that troll enough for you? No, that is a Fact and Truth. You see the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ@w View Post
    I cannot wait for that first pick that does not play.
    No kidding. He will break a toenail in TC and to be safe Marvin will put him on IR. Then hardly play him in 2018.
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    Ah shit man... have you guys seen the David Johnson injury? That is some sick gruesome sh it. I mean Tim Krumrie level shi t.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Tigre View Post
    Lol! Best early-days video game EVER! "Body blow...body blow...body blow...jab..jab.."

    Always had troubles with Piston Hurricane, but usually did OK with Kid Quick.

    My son finally showed me to hit Iron Mike when he winked. lol

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    If Hooker from Ohio State declares, someone is going to get the next Ed Reed.

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    Then that's who I want. Williams waited until 2017 to make his first play as a starting safety.
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    Bengals pick 9th
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaBengal View Post
    My son finally showed me to hit Iron Mike when he winked. lol
    Great tip! I needed that one 30 years ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    There really isn't a LBer out there I'm in love with...
    A lot of draft boards have Rueben Foster in the top 10. Rare for an ILB to be top 10 but he is quite the player
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    I know we will not drfat a QB and there is likely not one there worth it anyway. But the best thing for this team is if several other teams scramble for QB's and over draft them. So if 2 or 3 QB's go before us, that leaves better players for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_C_DeadPeople View Post
    I know we will not drfat a QB and there is likely not one there worth it anyway. But the best thing for this team is if several other teams scramble for QB's and over draft them. So if 2 or 3 QB's go before us, that leaves better players for us.
    On paper you are correct, not to many QB's coming out look good. But there is always someone who will gamble and take the next "franchise qb"... We can only hope. I don't even want to guess who we will take because it will be some unknown who won't play anyway......

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwedge View Post
    On paper you are correct, not to many QB's coming out look good. But there is always someone who will gamble and take the next "franchise qb"... We can only hope. I don't even want to guess who we will take because it will be some unknown who won't play anyway......
    Kizer out of Notre Dame is the real deal he will be a top 10 pick no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    Kizer out of Notre Dame is the real deal he will be a top 10 pick no problem.
    And some are thinking Watson and Trubisky are possible top 10's as well (real deals or not). If 2 are taken before us that leaves us with a top 7 non-QB pick.
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    Philly win against Dallas puts their choice one spot above Cincy . . . that is Cleveland's for the Carson Wentz trade. Hopefully Cincy can snatch a stud defender Cleveland wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    Too bad the Bengals aren't high enough to get that defensive lineman kid from Texas A&M, Myles Garrett. They have get to get another pass rushing DE, and hope Billings comes back strong and healthy next year. The kid from Tennessee wouldn't be a bad backup plan, Barnett. There really isn't a LBer out there I'm in love with... could the Bengals throw everyone off and go after Peppers from Michigan???
    I'd prefer Barnett over Garrett. Admittedly I'm a U-Tenn fan but that does mean that I've seen a lot of Barnett. He broke Reggie White's sack record and he did it mainly against SEC schools. Most of Garrett's sacks came against non conference opponents that suck.

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    I'd draft two kickers with the late comp picks and sign a CFA kicker to compete.
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    A guy like Barnett could be an instant third down rush specialist. And if we ever could find a SLB that could rush then we would have some weapons to help confuse the offense in obvious passing downs.
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    Whoever drafts Hooker from OSU is going to get the next Ed Reed. I know that Mike Brown has old ideas about safeties in the 1st round, but I remember fellows like Reed and Palomalu dominating our division for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaBengal View Post
    Whoever drafts Hooker from OSU is going to get the next Ed Reed. I know that Mike Brown has old ideas about safeties in the 1st round, but I remember fellows like Reed and Palomalu dominating our division for years.
    I do think Mikey has little influence in the war room other than evaluating trade options. If Hooker is BPA when we pick i am all for it. I trust the Tobins more than ML or Mikey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_C_DeadPeople View Post
    I do think Mikey has little influence in the war room other than evaluating trade options. If Hooker is BPA when we pick i am all for it. I trust the Tobins more than ML or Mikey.
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    Barnett just signed with Drew Rosenhous So much for the Bengals drafting him... Rosenhous and the Brown's do not get along at all.

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    I read somewhere that this is a weak draft for WR and OL.

    Just an FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    I'd prefer Barnett over Garrett. Admittedly I'm a U-Tenn fan but that does mean that I've seen a lot of Barnett. He broke Reggie White's sack record and he did it mainly against SEC schools. Most of Garrett's sacks came against non conference opponents that suck.
    SEC was not the dominant league it has been in years past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCStripes View Post
    SEC was not the dominant league it has been in years past.
    First of all this is over a career, not just this yr but even if you want to say the SEC isn't what it once was, do you understand what we're comparing here? We're comparing a player's stats vs SEC teams and those vs the non SEC team's on Missou's schedule. For example this yr those teams were Eastern Mich, Delaware St, Middle Tennessee and West Va. Do you really want to harp on the SEC's weakness when compared to those teams? West Va was good of course but the others should be considered scrimmages.

    http://www.wbir.com/sports/college/v...ally/329413487

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    First of all this is over a career, not just this yr but even if you want to say the SEC isn't what it once was, do you understand what we're comparing here? We're comparing a player's stats vs SEC teams and those vs the non SEC team's on Missou's schedule. For example this yr those teams were Eastern Mich, Delaware St, Middle Tennessee and West Va. Do you really want to harp on the SEC's weakness when compared to those teams? West Va was good of course but the others should be considered scrimmages.

    http://www.wbir.com/sports/college/v...ally/329413487
    I probably should not have replied - my bad. Has nothing to do with the players you mentioned or this thread. The talent in all of the major conferences is very good. Living in the south I am tired of hearing about the SEC. IMHO both the ACC and the Big 10 were better conferences this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCStripes View Post
    I probably should not have replied - my bad. Has nothing to do with the players you mentioned or this thread. The talent in all of the major conferences is very good. Living in the south I am tired of hearing about the SEC. IMHO both the ACC and the Big 10 were better conferences this year.
    That's a totally different discussion...I'll get to that in a minute, the point here is that regardless of the strength of the SEC, Missouri's non conference schedule was much, much easier, as is the case with all power5 schools.

    As for the best conference, w/o a doubt the ACC takes the crown this yr. The Big Ten had a very good regular season but didn't look too good in the Bowl games. I'm a Tennessee alum and I can say that it's gotten to the point where I look forward to beating up on a slow B1G team every yr in a Bowl game. It's happened 3 straight yrs.

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    This may be the lamest article i have read in some time:

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...GSq62VUozAFXJ/

    The Bengals missed the playoffs for the first time since 2010, but coach Marvin Lewis has indicated he feels the team is not in need of a total reboot.

    Here are five reasons he’s right:

    1. With the ninth pick in the draft, they should get an impact player.

    The Bengals haven’t gotten a lot out of the draft in the past couple of years, in part because of injuries but also because they haven’t picked in the top half of the first round since grabbing A.J. Green with the fourth pick in 2011.

    2. Although the team has 15 free agents, only about a third are likely to be considered priorities to re-sign.

    Seven year-end starters have contracts that are up – Andrew Whitworth, T.J. Johnson (restricted), Kevin Zeitler, Brandon LaFell, Domata Peko, Karlos Dansby and Dre Kirkpatrick – and there are young players potentially ready to take every one of their spots.

    That should them some piece of mind and make it easier for the team to find the money to keep stalwarts Whitworth and Zeitler while deciding how much they want to invest in Kirkpatrick and Johnson.

    RELATED: Some numbers that add clarity to Bengals’ reality

    3. They know what they have at quarterback, receiver, defensive line and head coach.

    Those are some of, if not the, most crucial elements for success in today’s NFL, so that’s a nice set of cornerstones for a management group that not long ago had put together one of the deepest rosters in the league before natural attrition began to take its toll last offseason.

    No team stays the same every year, but stability is essential in the NFL.

    Of course not everyone will agree with the quality of those pieces, but we’ll discuss that tomorrow.

    4. Many answers might already be on the roster.

    In Jake Fisher, Cedric Ogbuehi, Nick Vigil, P.J. Dawson, Darqueze Dennard, William Jackson III and KeiVarae Russell, the Bengals have a bunch of players who were high draft picks who haven’t blossomed yet nor played enough to conclude that won’t happen.

    It’s not too much to expect them all to at least round into reliable players while hoping some of them still turn into stars.

    5. The schedule should soften.

    When you get to the playoffs, they don’t ask how as much as how many: All those wins count the same (unless tiebreakers come into play) in the standings at the end of the year.

    Playing a third-place schedule should prove to be easier than the first-place docket of 2016 (bye-bye, Patriots and Cowboys).

    __________________________________________________

    Let's see:

    1. Lewis rarely plays new draftees
    2. If only a 1/3rd of the free agents are priorities what does that say about the other 2/3rds?
    3. "They know they have a Quarterback..Head Coach"..lol..guys who fail at each crucial game.
    4. Yes, many answers probably are on the roster - but can the coaching staff get it out of them ort even let them on the filed to learn. prime example, watch us re-sign frigging Peko for two years. Sounds like Hobs wrote this one
    5. Nothing like lessor competition to make the team better
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    Walter Football site has a list of players visited by team. If i recall, there does seem to be a high correlation on the Bengals between visits and getting drafted. Just food for thought:

    Rudy Ford, S, Auburn (SR)
    Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina (SR)
    Antonio Pipkin, QB, Tiffin (SR)
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  37. #37
    Hooker - S

    He will be a 15 year starter somewhere.

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    I love Hooker, but I keep seeing comparisons to Ed Reed and the like. Hooker is one heck of a ball hawk and a cover guy, but he is not a big hitter. He's not a guy that is a huge asset in the run game, and he's not going to make guys fear coming over the middle.
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    Just having a little fun here and mocking what would look like a successful offseason to me. For the sake of argument I'm throwing in one high price FA acquisition, which is entirely outside the Bengals' usual protocol, but if ever there was a year to do it it would be this one (on account of the fact that we can build depth on day 3 of the draft, we can use cap room on a difference maker).

    1. Release Maualuga and Adam Jones
    2. Let Peko, Hunt, Zeitler, and Burkhead walk. Re-sign all our other FAs. I'd love to have Zietler and Burkhead back but I'm trying to make this scenario realistic cap-wise.
    3. Sign DT Jonathan Hankins from NYG.
    4. Sign OG Ronald Leary from Dallas, and RB Brandon Bolden from the Pats as a special teamer.

    Next I went to Fanspeaks On The Clock tool (http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/) to simulate a draft, based on the CBS sports draft board and my own knowledge. They use overthecap.com's projection of compensatory picks, which assumes two 4s and two 6s for us. I don't think that will prove accurate but whatever, here it goes:

    9. Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford
    41. TreDavious White, CB, LSU
    73. Pat Elflein, C, OSU
    114. Chris Godwin, WR, PSU (didn't want a WR this high but he's a 2nd day talent on day 3)
    137. Marquel Lee, LB, Wake (CBS doesn't have him this high, but he was the best LB left and having watched film of him I think he's at least a 4th rounder)
    144. Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M
    154. Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (may be the only draftable kicker so we reach for him)
    194. Storm Norton, OT, Toledo (wanted an OT higher than this, but this is how it worked out)
    218. Jalen Reeves-Maybin, LB, Tennessee
    221. T.J. Logan, RB, UNC
    230. Cole Hikutini, TE, Louisville

  40. #40
    All sounds like a great plan.

    I wouldn't be nervous about going after Zane Gonzalez even earlier. He is an insanely accurate kicker--even from long ranges.
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