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    McCarron discussed to be traded to Browns

    Per NFL.com
    "We started with a very low standard, so we have nowhere to go but up," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. So you set your standards as low? WOW!

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    Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

    #Browns & #Bengals touched base regarding a potential trade for QB AJ McCarron. Doesn’t sound like they’ve gotten too far. Price is high.
    1:24 PM · Apr 28, 2017
    "We started with a very low standard, so we have nowhere to go but up," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. So you set your standards as low? WOW!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

    Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ@w View Post
    Price is high.
    as it should be....considering they're in our division I'm thinking they'd have to start with one of their first rd picks next year and at LEAST one of their picks tonight.

    in other words, the likelihood of that happening is pretty much nil.
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    They were talking second round picks from what I read.
    "We started with a very low standard, so we have nowhere to go but up," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. So you set your standards as low? WOW!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

    Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.

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    Spicoli is right... trading within a division is unlikely because the risk has to be built into the price. The only way I can think to deal with that would be if it there was a 2018 #2 involved that escalated to a #1 of McCarron played X percentage of the snaps and the Browns qualify for the playoffs. In addition to one of their picks today. But that's still unlikely.

    The "second round pick" talk was just the author of the article adding filler because that's all the Browns have to offer... not reporting on actual talks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengali View Post
    Spicoli is right... trading within a division is unlikely because the risk has to be built into the price. The only way I can think to deal with that would be if it there was a 2018 #2 involved that escalated to a #1 of McCarron played X percentage of the snaps and the Browns qualify for the playoffs. In addition to one of their picks today. But that's still unlikely.

    The "second round pick" talk was just the author of the article adding filler because that's all the Browns have to offer... not reporting on actual talks.
    Showing my ignorance again,but, who thinks any of the QBs in this draft are better than AJ?

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    Well, the thing is the Browns are probably reluctant to trade with us for the same reason we are. They don't want to give us picks we turn into players we use to beat them. They'd rather convert those picks to draft selections.

    As far as other teams go, they haven't worked directly with AJ so don't know what he can become. He's put something like 3 or 4 games of good NFL tape up, which doesn't prove anything. It might to bengals fans, and it might to Hue, but not to say the Forty Niners or Jets.

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    They just picked Deshon Kizer so I 'm guessing those talks are done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shebengal View Post
    They just picked Deshon Kizer so I 'm guessing those talks are done.
    it was all talk anyhow....Mike Brown was never gonna do anything that could have helped that team up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spicoli View Post
    it was all talk anyhow....Mike Brown was never gonna do anything that could have helped that team up there.
    There's a lot of truth to that.
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    And why would Hue Jackson let us fleece him again......

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    Quote Originally Posted by spicoli View Post
    it was all talk anyhow....Mike Brown was never gonna do anything that could have helped that team up there.
    They helped Zimmer so why not the Browns? Oh if McCarron is so great then why is he not starting? Yea, I will leave this right here with all the Dalton fans and McCarron haters on here. Let the Excuses begin. He will be FA next year so what does it matter? He should demand a trade or walk if he really wants to play in the NFL. If he wants to stay, then he couldn't care less.
    "We started with a very low standard, so we have nowhere to go but up," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. So you set your standards as low? WOW!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ@w View Post
    They helped Zimmer so why not the Browns?
    Um because the Vikes don't even play in our conference, let alone our division.

    and who said anything about hating McCarron?? I actually love having him here....great back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spicoli View Post
    Um because the Vikes don't even play in our conference, let alone our division.

    and who said anything about hating McCarron?? I actually love having him here....great back up.
    I did not say you were a hater, they know who they are. To me, does he want to play in the NFL or not? I guess not.
    "We started with a very low standard, so we have nowhere to go but up," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. So you set your standards as low? WOW!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

    Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ@w View Post
    I did not say you were a hater, they know who they are. To me, does he want to play in the NFL or not? I guess not.
    back-up QB is a helluva gig
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    Quote Originally Posted by spicoli View Post
    back-up QB is a helluva gig
    We all know that from kINTna. Millionaires doing nothing to note.
    "We started with a very low standard, so we have nowhere to go but up," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. So you set your standards as low? WOW!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

    Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ@w View Post
    We all know that from kINTna. Millionaires doing nothing to note.
    well at least McCaffrey is doing something....you've seen his wife right??
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ@w View Post
    I did not say you were a hater, they know who they are. To me, does he want to play in the NFL or not? I guess not.
    With the way this league is now-a-days,QBs usually don't last a whole season,so A.J. will most likely play some this coming season.Our division is very physical and Andy Dalton so far has been blessed,plus he is a tough dude as well.I am concerned about our O-line this year.Hopefully they have a super training camp and I would allow the starting O-line to play all of the pre-season at least the first half of each game for nothing more than the practice time.NOW LETS GO KICK THE CRAP OUT OF THE STOOLERS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spicoli View Post
    Um because the Vikes don't even play in our conference, let alone our division.

    and who said anything about hating McCarron?? I actually love having him here....great back up.
    And they aren't called the Minnesota Browns.
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    "You're either incredibly prepared, or incredibly physically talented."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengali View Post
    Spicoli is right... trading within a division is unlikely because the risk has to be built into the price. The only way I can think to deal with that would be if it there was a 2018 #2 involved that escalated to a #1 of McCarron played X percentage of the snaps and the Browns qualify for the playoffs. In addition to one of their picks today. But that's still unlikely.

    The "second round pick" talk was just the author of the article adding filler because that's all the Browns have to offer... not reporting on actual talks.
    If McCarron leads the Browns to the playoffs in his first yr with them then they should give us their entire slate of picks and throw in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...

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